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Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form





2015-01-16 16:47 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:
On Thursday, January 15, 2015 08:12:24 guskant wrote:
> Just for your info. Considering application of Ci/uV -> Cii/uuV to fu'ivla,
> not only those beginning with CgV but also those in the form (C)V(g)CCgV...
> produce tosmabru-like problem. I picked up such fu'ivla from an xml dump
> dated 2015-01-08:
>
> eskua, februa, fiakre, fiesta, kuadranta, kuaidzi, madjio, matriocka,
> patriarko, reskuamata, restuatara, tiatro, tuitsku

"reskuamata" and "restuatara" appear to be badly, and differently, formed from
"Squamata" and "tuatara" with the gism "res".

Changing Cu/iV to Cuu/iiV or Cu/i'V at the end of a word puts the accent on
what was a glide; changing it to Cuu/iiV at the beginning, if there's a single
consonant at the beginning, results in no consonant pair in the first five
letters.

On Thursday, January 15, 2015 21:31:44 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> eskua => sku'ate
> For Gregorian months something like {jangre'i} for Jan., {febgre'i} for
> Feb. etc. (or whatever suffix you invent). We can easily borrow latin names
> anyway ({madjio} is the worst Lojbanization of a latin name i've ever
> seen).

"madjio" is from Italian.

And that's what I don't like. I suppose names should follow some system, not be arbitrarily taken from different languages within one set of words (then why not Lojbanize Italian "gennaio" and so on?).

Here is one more attempt (same problems)
janmese febmese marmese primese majmese jonmese julmese augmese sepmese oktomese novmese dekmese (June is {jon-} to make it more distinguishable from {jul-}.)

For Italian system 
gennaio febbraio marzo aprile  maggio giugno luglio agosto settembre ottobre novembre dicembre

let me try:
jenmese febmese marmese primese majmese junmese lulmese agmese, setmese, otmese, novmese dicmese


This might be only easier to remember since only the first letters of months are retained + a pseudo-suffix is added.


 
This change affects half the month names, including
all the ones that couldn't be entered while jbovlaste was using vlatai:
ianvari
frebuari -> frebuuari
martio ->?
prilio ->?
madjio ->?
djunio ->?
djulio ->?
avgusto
septembero
oktobero
novmbero
decmbero
and the obsolete names and leap month:
kuintili -> ku'intili
sektili
mercedonio ->?

Pierre
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