On 5/22/2014 12:59 PM, And Rosta wrote:
John Cowan, On 20/05/2014 17:40:Is it legitimate to proxy one's vote on bpfk matters?The LLG has traditionally accepted them, and the BPFK is a committee of the LLG, formally speaking, so I see no reason why not. John Cowan, LLG parliamentarianIn that case, I proxy mine to Xorxes. Experience has shown me that even in the rare cases where I don't agree with him from the outset, I soon come to realize that he was right after all. I'd also like to point out that if enough bpfk members did likewise, the bpfk business could be zipped through without unnecessary delay and debate. Either decisions could simply be referred to Xorxes or else we could calculate how many Nays it takes to block a consensus and begin by counting contraxorxesian votes; only if there were sufficient contraxorxesian votes to block a consensus would it be necessary to struggle to find some other solution.
Since having enough votes hasn't ever been a problem, this is not an issue. When it gets to the final consensus decision, probably the votes that will count will be the votes of people that actually reviewed the final baseline. A proxy pretty much is an admission that you didn't. So why should your vote count?
The original view was that two independent negative votes would be sufficient to make it not a consensus vote, regardless of how many pro votes there are. But if past history is the case, the jatna will require the no votes to provide actual reasons, and perhaps a set of conditions under which they would accept consensus, or the jatna would just throw the negative vote out (or throw the negative voter off the BPFK). Robin has near dictatorial powers when it comes to getting the job done. (The Board/membership has the option to reject the BPFK work as well. But the odds of that happening, if we finally get done after all these years, is pretty small.)
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