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Re: [bpfk] camxes and syllabification in zi'evla



This wont matter if there are none in the corpus. In fact jbofi'e/camxes discrepancy already invalidated a lot of fu'ivla

2014-11-09 20:08 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:


On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
2014-11-09 18:37 GMT+03:00 John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>:

I was actually thinking of something more radical:  replace all syllabic
consonants with yC throughout the language.  Ivan Derzhanski argued for
this long ago, and I now think he was correct: they reduce readability
and make things more awkward.  Syllabic consonants were introduced by
JCB, and I think we should have discarded them for Lojban; Loglan wound
up being more dependent on them, and writing them double.

If this change can be easily explained (e.g. "replace all syllabic consonants to {yr}") then it's okay. Existing texts will be assumed to be synonymous to these amended words just like {klamygau} is a full synonym of {klagau} (except the sounding and the text itself).

Doing that won't work in general for consonantal syllables in places other than in the type-3 hyphen. For example the currently valid fu'ivla "mutcmle" (mut,cm,le) would turn into a lujvo "mutcymle". Such fu'ivla are rare, but I'm sure there are already a few in jbovlaste. Examples like this that create actual possible words can only happen with Cm consonantal syllables, because "m" is the only syllabic consonant that can start a CC onset. 

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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