Re: [bpfk] {e'i} in usage and in the wiki

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

Usage tells that:

ei mi cliva - conventions/rules dictate that I leave.

e'i mi cliva - the situation forces me to leave.

ei is a UI for {sei mi te javni}.

e'i is a UI for {sei mi bilga}.

That would mean "e'i" can only be used with "mi" as agent, but I see a lot of usage of these words with sentences where "mi" is not the agent. Some random examples for ".e'i" from korpora zei sisku:

do sanga

.e'i

.i mi do viska sei

.e'i

do terpa

.au .ei

.e'i

do cilre fi lo cnima'o

.i

.e'i

lo xekri cu kelci

.i

.e'i

zo_cu .e nai zo_xu co'e

.uinai

.e'i

do toljundi mi

.i lo te pilno .e lo te xamgu cu

.e'i

se setca

 

.i ku'i	.e'i	mi'o denpa

.e'i	ko ta mi dunda

 

So my question is why e'i was moved from {ei} group into {e'V} group turning it into kinda imperative marker.

I don't think it was moved as such. CLL doesn't even give an example with ".e'i", so it's not very clear that it wasn't in the e'V group from the start. Since you can use ".e'i" for a first person imperative anyway, it just makes sense to define it as a regular member of the e'V group.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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