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Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form


On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:57 PM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> wrote:
And Rosta scripsit:

> That is, it's a bad idea for
> [tuitsku] to be ambiguous between /tu witsku/ and /twitsku/, and that
> ambiguity should be remedied and nullified by forbidding one of them.

The current prescription forbids both of them:  "tuitsku" has the illicit
CgV form, and "tu uitsku" has be [tu?witsku]. 

But CLL doesn't forbid CgV's in fu'ivla. It has examples such as "saskrkuarka" and "bangrblgaria", so I don't think CLL has a problem with "tuitsku". 

CLL does forbid "tuuitsku", but due to morphological rather than phonotactic constraints. CLL requires a consonant cluster in the first five letters of a brivla, and it also requires a pause before words beginning with a glide, so for CLL "tuuitsku" is a non-word form much like "slinku'i", phonotactically acceptable but morphologically unanalyzable. CLL would not have a problem with, for example, "blatuuitsku" as a fu'ivla form distinct from "blatuitsku", one with four syllables and the other with three.

camxes currently allows both "tuitsku" (a fu'ivla)  and "tuuitsku" = "tu uitsku", because camxes doesn't require a pause before words that begin with a glide. I wouldn't have a problem with disallowing CgV, but it is a change from the current official prescription.
 
Lojban's phonotactics are as arbitrary as every other feature of the
language, and I see no need to liberalize them.

In this case the need is to make them more strict.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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