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Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form

Even though cultural neutrality is important, we shouldn't include phonetic distinctions in Lojban just because we can find them in a natural language... but I suppose zifcme are a different matter. I see your point, and I changed my vote so it no longer includes (2), but I may change my mind again, who knows. As for the names, I would guess:

[if (2) wins]
Han => {.xan.}
Hu An => {.xus. .an.} or {.xuuan.} or {.xu'an.}
Huan => {.xuuan.} or {.xu'an.}

[if (1.3.1) or something more permissive wins]
Han => {.xan.}
Hu An => {.xus. .an.} or {.xuuan.} or {.xu'an.}
Huan => {.xuan.} or {.xuuan.} or {.xu'an.}

So there are still options (some more attractive than others) either way.

mu'o mi'e la durkavore

On Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM, guskant wrote:

This is reminder and interim report.

The poll will be closed on 2014-12-27 at 0:00 UTC (it might be a few hours later depending on my connection to the Internet.)



Currently, "2. disallow CgV in cmevla/fu'ivla/ma'ovla" is predominant.




As a supporter of "1.3.1. allow CgV in cmevla, disallow it in fu'ivla/ma'ovla", I make a comment here:

CgV in cmevla does not affect lexical analysis, while that in fu'ivla/ma'ovla does. Disallowing CgV in cmevla is very strong restriction. It affects not only traditional names like {nitcion}, or popular names like {tuitr}, but also a standard of lojbanization of words of natural languages. CgV in cmevla sometimes makes things easy. For example, many Chinese names have CgV-like phoneme strings. Chinese "Huan", "Han" and "Hu An" are distinguished from each other. If CgV is disallowed in cmevla, it will be difficult to find out a reasonable standard of lojbanization of them.

mu'o

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