Re: [bpfk] to'e and causation sumtcita compounds

[Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com>]

On 13/05/2015 09:43, guskant wrote:

1-2. {to'eki'u} in affirmative sentence.

{mi radycru lo nu sipna kei to'eki'u lo nu do cladu}

I give up sleeping prevented by your loud noise.

It may signify "Your loud noise prevents me from giving up sleeping, still 'I give up sleeping' is true."

Unusual.

pe'i smuni dunli ja jibni lu lo nu mi radycru lo nu sipna cu se to'e krinu lo nu do cladu li'u

2. Lojban sentences for "I don't sleep because of your loud noise."

2-1-1. {ki'u} in the scope of {naku}.

{naku mi sipna ki'u lo nu do cladu}

"I sleep because of your loud noise" is false.

It may signify:

-1. "The reason for my sleeping is not your loud noise," [1] or,

-2. "I don't sleep; if I were sleeping, the reason for my sleeping would be your loud noise."

Both interpretations are unusual.

pe'i smuni dunli ja jibni lu jitfa fa lo du'u mi sipna ki'u lo nu do cladu li'u .i pe'i naku natfe ge lo du'u da'i ja'a sipna ki'u lo drata be lo nu cladu gi lo du'u na sipna

mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o

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