RE: [jboske] RE: Re: lo'edu'u

[Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>]

Not following the discussion, but seeing something familiar fly by ...

At 06:03 PM 12/11/02 +0000, And Rosta wrote:
> It seems to me that we can establish a number of distinct
> epistemological frameworks within which communication is
> viable.
>
> 1. The speaker claims that p is true only within a certain worldview
> (which the addressee can comprehend).
> 2. The speaker claims that p is true only within a certain worldview
> (which the addressee can comprehend) and that the worldview should
> be shared by people in general.
> 3. The speaker claims that p is true only within a certain worldview
> (which the addressee can comprehend) and that the worldview is
> be shared by people in general.
> 4. The speaker claims that p is true only within a certain worldview
> (which the addressee can comprehend) and that the worldview is and
> should be shared by people in general.
> 5. The speaker claims that there is such a thing as objective reality
> and that p is true of objective reality.
>
> (When I say "claim", feel free to read "presuppose" where it seems
> more appropriate.)

I think the worldview aspect of 1-4 is carried by ka'u. I don't know why 
Lojban needs to support all the "should be shared" stuff. Claims about 
other people and what they believe are not knowable without omniscience, 
and Lojban has for the most part avoided speakers speaking other than for 
themselves except with the empathy attitudinal.

5. has a predicate to itself - fatci.

lojbab

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