sane kau? (was: RE: Re: RE: Re: lo'edu'u

["And Rosta" <a.rosta@lycos.co.uk>]

xod:
> > >> The "fill in a blank here" box does have a colour; it's just
> > >> unspecified and uninstantiated. There's no na'i about it 
> > > Very interesting use of {kau}! Can you explain the {nai} there?
> > > I would have just used {makau} for "whatever colour" 
> >
> > kaunai means that the value is not known, and not instantiated; but is
> > known to exist and be unique {da}. Is it odd to use {kau} like that?
> > When we say {da kau go'i}, we say that the value is known and is
> > instantiated, but just isn't communicated. When you're asking for a box,
> > you know that whatever box satisfies the request will be a specific,
> > concrete box, and so will have a colour. What colour that will be, noone
> > knows yet; it is, after all, intensionally defined. When you know who
> > killed the butler (kauja'ai), OTOH, there's nothing intensional and
> > fluffy there: the killer of the butler has a denotation known to at
> > least one person 
> 
> Watch it! You're trying to give kau a sane and consistent meaning. Which,
> of course, collides with the way Jorge and his disciples use it. For
> instance, in that case, makau would mean "I know the value, but I want you
> to tell me anyway" 

If anybody can think of a sane and consistent meaning for kau that is
also consistent with usage, please explain it to me!

--And.