RE: [jboske] jei clani (was: RE: Re: poi'i, se/te/ve ka

["And Rosta" <a.rosta@lycos.co.uk>]

xod:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, And Rosta wrote:
> > xod:
> > > > > 1. Because the car is blue 90% of the time, as it's constantly
> > flickering
> > > > > colors?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Because we've never seen the car but we're 90% certain it's blue?
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Because 90% of its surface is blue?
> > > > >
> > > > > 4. Because its color is objectively 90% blue?
> > > > >
> > > > > 5.Because 90% of survey respondents called it blue?
[...]
> > > It seems to me that this allows my original usage: that "jei by. clani"
> > is
> > > related to B's height
> >
> > I think you and me are on the same side on this one, but two
> > people of different heights can yield the same value for jei X clani 
> > To gauge the value of both ni clani and jei clani, you can measure
> > the height, but different values of ni can correspond to the same
> > value of jei 
> 
> Tell me how, referring to the 5 sentences above?

Those are cases where different ni give different jei. 
I think "the leopard is running" (i.e. fast) and "the toddler is 
running" (i.e. slow) have different ni -- the former is truer than 
the latter -- but the same jei -- they are both true. Likewise for 
"Illinois is in the USA" and "Hawaii is in the USA".

--And.