Re: [jboske] putative tense scope effects (was: RE: Concrete examples of Llamban lo'e

["Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>]

la and cusku di'e

> Certainly there is a difference between
>
> There is a man such that all week it has been the case
> that John hits him.
>
> All week it has been the case that there is a man that John hits.
> =At no time during the week has it been false that there is a man
> that John hits.
>
> I would have thought that
>
> la djan cu darxi lo nanmu ze'a le jeftu
> la djan cu darxi ze'a le jeftu lo nanmu
>
> would respectively be the ways to express the two meanings. But I may
> be wrong -- afaik, this precise point has never been discussed before.

I think that is not the way. I think {ze'a} refers to a single
interval and not to all points in an interval as points.
To get that we have {roroi}:

la djan cu darxi lo nanmu roroi le jeftu
There is a man such that Johnhits him every
time during the week.

la djan cu darxi roroi le jeftu lo nanmu
Every time during the week, there is a man that
John hits.

But {ze'a} should be a singular term.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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