Re: [jboske] loi'e & truthconditions (was: RE: carving the lo'e debate intoshape

[John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>]

Jorge Llambias scripsit:

> Right. But the relevant criteria for deciding whether
> "the Lion lives in Africa" is true is also about {xabju},
> not about {cinfo}. Isn't "the Lion lives in South Africa"
> true, even though most lions don't?

It's false. The lions of South Africa specifically are outliers.

> Or is it false? Is there only one place where the Lion lives?

See my previous posting.

> I agree. I was just answering John's objections that {lo'e} could
> not be {lo'ei} because {lo'ei cinfo cu fetsi} can be true and
> {lo'e cinfo cu fetsi} can't according to CLL. I was pointing
> out that {loi'e cinfo cu fetsi} is true in the same contexts
> where {lo'ei cinfo cu fetsi} is true.

Can you show me such a context? I don't see it.

> When we are discussing a person and what type of animals
> that person hunts, for example. In that context, seeing
> lions as the Lion would be appropriate. He hunts the Lion
> but never the Tiger.

For that usage, I would prefer ko'a kaltu loi cinfo .enai loi tirxu.

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