RE: [jboske] e-gadri & utility of lo'ei (was: RE: RE: Re: lo'e

["And Rosta" <a.rosta@lycos.co.uk>]

xorxes:
> >& IMO:
> >loi broda = lu'o lo'i broda
> >lei broda = lu'o le'i broda
> >
> >(The "IMO" is because I don't hold with the default piro/pisu'o.)
> 
> Ignoring the issue of default quantifiers, I would
> say:
> 
> piro loi broda = (piro) lu'o ro lu'a lo'i broda
> piro lei broda = (piro) lu'o ro lu'a le'i broda
> 
> pisu'o loi broda = (piro) lu'o su'o lu'a lo'i broda
> pisu'o lei broda = (piro) lu'o su'o lu'a lo'i broda

This last one isn't right, because it doesn't get the
specificity. Change it to:

pisu'o lei broda = (piro) lu'o su'o lu'a le'i broda

as you probably intended, and I agree with you.

> In general:
> 
> pi Q loi broda = (piro) lu'o Q lu'a lo'i broda
> pi Q lei broda = (piro) lu'o Q lu'a le'i broda
> 
> I think the defaults should be {piro lei} and {pisu'o loi},
> as for {le} and {lo} 

Yes.

What I would like would be gadri for:

lau'i broda = lo klesi be lo'i broda
(ro) lau'a broda = ro lu'a lo klesi be lo'i broda
(pi ro) lau'o broda = (pi ro) lu'o (ro lu'a) lo klesi be lo'i broda

--And.