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[jbovlaste] xagrai and superlatives
- To: jbovlaste@lojban.org
- Subject: [jbovlaste] xagrai and superlatives
- From: "A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com>
- Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 07:17:19 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi,
I have just seen this a lujvo in jbovlaste that really irks me:
xagrai
t1=x1 is optimal in property t2 of extremity t3 among range t4.
While technically, a lujvo can be defined as anything, it should be
reasonable. The property here is 'goodness' so what is t2 doing there?
If you subscribe to the convention of keeping the places in the same order
the same as those in the originating gismu, then the lujvo should be:
1) t1=x1 is the best for x2 by standard x3, the extreme being t3, among
set/range t4
from:
t1=x1 traji loka xamgu x2 x3 kei t3 t4
OR
If on the other hand you prefer the convention of reordering he places so that
the most used ones come first, and rarely used ones get dropped, then:
2) t1=x1 is the best among set/range t4 for x2 by standard x3
Superlatives are used frequently, in particular {xagrai}, so it would be good
to get some consensus on this.
Opinions please.
totus