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[jbovlaste] Re: Esther Chapter 2



On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:07 PM, A. PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote:


From: "komfo,amonan" <komfoamonan@gmail.com>
To: jbovlaste@lojban.org
Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 2:44:55 PM
Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Esther Chapter 2

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se> wrote:
>> A small planet is not small in the property/dimension of being a planet. I
>> think the underlying tanru, {cmalu plini} expands to {cmalu je plini} or
>> {c1=p1 cmalu c2 c3 gi'e plini p2 p3 p4}.
>
> But even with your tanru-based expansion, you still can't avoid 'the
> property of being a planet'.  After all, what is c2?

Something like {lo ka canlu ce'u}?

That was exactly my thinking.

Possibly.  But I still don't see the problem in having something have the property of
being a planet.  When are properties no longer properties?  Obviously, for example,
length is a property.  So is area, though now we have a property
that is a combination of two properties.  How about flatness, now a property of more
properties.  The property of being a planet is nothing more than a vast
number of properties.  So?  We may not be used to thinking in such terms, but then
lojban is supposed to make us think in new ways, isn't it?
 
totus
I'm not arguing that {ka plini} is always & everywhere invalid or nonsensical. I'm just arguing that a small planet is not small in the property of being a planet. It's small by planetary standards, but that's c3.

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan