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[jbovlaste] Re: ci'erkei
On Wednesday 14 April 2010 13:58:47 A. PIEKARSKI wrote:
> coi ro do
>
>
> ci'erkei is found in gi'uste but not jbovlaste.
>
> So here is a proposed definition:
>
> k1 plays game k2=c1, governed by rules c2 interrelating game parts
> (physical or conceptual) c3
>
> which comes from:
>
> ciste: c1 (mass) system interrelated by structure c2 among
> components c3 (set) displaying c4 (ka)
> and
> kelci: k1 [agent] plays with plaything/toy k2
>
> I'm not really happy with c2 as 'structure' and "rules' are not
> quite the same to me, and we don't play with games but in them.
I've heard of something called "structured play", but I forget what it is.
In my dialect one plays with a toy, plays a game, and plays an instrument. In
French, on joue avec un jouet (je crois), joue à un jeu, et joue d'un
instrument. In Lojban cu selci lo selkei gi'e jivna fi lo terjvi (unless it's
a solitaire) gi'e zgipli lo zgitci. I'd say "play in" for "te draci fi".
Pierre
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