[jbovlaste] Re: new word: prolijmo'a

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

>checkboards, uneven and even grids, bricks or pavement tiling, tartan,
>certain carpet patterns, zigzag stitching, pixel art tiles
>(particularly the older, low res ones)...

So these would be those words that I was talking about when I said 
> Maybe later if someone wants to describe that pattern that a tic-tac-toe

> board makes they could make a bigger lujvo that pulls {linji} into it

I think checker boards, pixel art tiles, and a brick wall all exhibit a pattern that is a variation on the basic, standard check pattern.  So, is it fair to say that the more general/standard the idea, the smaller the lujvo can comfortably be?  While the more specific/non-standard/varied ideas get longer lujvo?

e.g.  {cicti'a} = "storm" but when we want to get more specific we have {bifyvilcarvi} = "windstorm"

So for instance, I wanted to define the word originally because I wanted to translated "handsome checked suit".  That seems like a pretty general use of the word to me.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:07 PM, David Gowers <00ai99@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> After reading through the chapter on lujvo making in the CLL I'm beginning
> to wonder how important it really is to perfectly describe exactly what you
> want to mean.
> If I were making a tanru to mean "checker pattern" I might need to use vlina
> kurfa dasri morna.  But if the true meaning of a lujvo comes from it's
> definition and not strictly it's component gismu (we remove {sel} and {nun}
> all the time) then do we really need to describe it perfectly with ba'u 50+
> gismu?  Also, it seems to me that if only a couple of gismu are necessary to
> describe an idea without other ideas intersecting with it, why add more?  Is
> there anything more obvious than "checker pattern" for kurfa morna to mean?
>  Maybe later if someone wants to describe that pattern that a tic-tac-toe
> board makes they could make a bigger lujvo that pulls {linji} into it.  But
> do we need to make every lujvo as big as the biggest lujvo necessary?

Do we 'need to make it as big as the biggest lujvo necessary'? :)
I think that would have to be a yes, no matter who you ask.
I guess you probably meant 'as big as the most comfortably unambiguous lujvo'
or something of the sort.

> Therefore, unless many people object, I'm going to create a new word kurmo'a
> (I've already voted down prolijmo'a).  I'll wait for a bit in case anybody
> is violently opposed to kurmo'a

That's fair enough for the general public (do we have that here? ;)
and a good point.
I'm just unlikely to use the short version, as it covers too much ground
for me to be comfortable with as an artist:

checkboards, uneven and even grids, bricks or pavement tiling, tartan,
certain carpet patterns, zigzag stitching, pixel art tiles
(particularly the older, low res ones)...

For the reasons you pointed out, I *will* use kurmo'a in my gimp
translation though.