Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: closed systems error

["Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>]

la ian cusku di'e

> The different velbo'e could also be different psychical and social systems.
>
> .i le mi'o velbo'e goi ko'a cu velbo'e
> 	le mi'o velbo'e be da poi velbo'e ke'a ku'o
> 	le la pavbudjo velbo'e be de poi na ka'e velbo'e ke'a
Let me try to translate this.

le mi'o velbo'e: "Our system"
le mi'o velbo'e be da poi velbo'e ke'a: "Our system
(which observes something which is observed)"

The {be da poi velbo'e ke'a} adds nothing, because every
velbo'e, to be a velbo'e, has to be a velbo'e be da poi
velbo'e ke'a. That's even more general: if "broda" has an
x2 place, then every broda has to be a broda be da poi broda
ke'a.

le la pavbudjo velbo'e be de poi na ka'e velbo'e ke'a:
"The Buddhist so-called system".

No velbo'e can be a velbo'e be de poi na ka'e velbo'e ke'a,
so you are suggesting that the Buddhist system is no velbo'e.

Your sentence then comes out as:

Our system distinguishes itself from the Buddhist
so-called "system".

Probably not what you meant, though.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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