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[lojban-beginners] Re: coi rodo



On 7/19/05, Hal Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> wrote:
>>>>My dialect of English doesn't have that x sound.
>>>
>>>No dialect of English has that sound.
>>>
>>
>>I'm no linguist, but I thought Scots used it (as in "loch").
>
>
> Point.  I'm no linguist either, but I thought that was an isolated
> borrowing, like "Bach".  Do Scots have any *other* words with that
> sound?

Good question. I haven't a clue.

But my instincts tell me that if it were really an isolated
word, it would have gone to the "lock" pronunciation long, long ago.

Scotland has three languages: Scots Gaelic (a Celtic cousin of Irish Gaelic), Scots or Scots English (a cousin of England English), and England English. Scots is a separate language because it didn't undergo the melding of Anglo-Saxon tongues that occurred in England (7th - 14th c.). When England & Scotland merged in 1707, England English became the standard up north. Anyway, "loch" is a Scots word, and Scots has ~/nixt/ for "night" and others. But the England English with a thick Scottish accent still doesn't seem to have the /x/ sound. -- I lived in the capital for a little while & didn't hear much Scots & no Gaelic. They broadcast in Gaelic, but Scots I dunno. Google knows, as does the BBC.