On 8/14/07, Vid Sintef <picos.picos@gmail.com> wrote: > The first instance I've come across was {loi jmive cu se zbasu > zi'o loi selci}, on the (converted) x2 place of which I was made > vainly focused, as you say. That's why I prefer not to use {se zmadu} in the sense "consists of". I think {gunma} works for that: {lo jmive cu gunma lo selci}. mu'o mi'e xorxes