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[lojban-beginners] Re: learning to climb on floors



Hmm... perhaps x3 of cilre can be roughly stated as the subject you "learn about"? Thus you "learn about" Lojban, but Connor doesn't "learn about" crawling?

On 10/24/07, Yoav Nir <yoav.nir@gmail.com> wrote:
Isn't {crebi'o} optimistic?  Doesn't it asuume that Connor will become proficient in crawling?

Besides, I thought that learning how to is also cilre, because that's the word used in the title of L4B.  Surely lojban is not a fact, but rather something you learn how to do.  Should I say {mi crebi'o la lojban} rather than {mi cilre [fi] la lojban} ?

On 10/23/07, Jorge Llambías < jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
{djuno} and {cilre} are defined as knowing/learning some fact x2 about
some subject x3. They are not really appropriate for knowing/learning
how to _do_ something. Not even in the x3, since knowing or learning
how to do something is not at all the same thing as knowing/learning
facts about it.

For knowing/learning how, one can use {certu}/{crebi'o}: