On Oct 27, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Jared Angell wrote:
Forgive me if before I learn a language I want to test the waters to make sure that it is speakable.
On 10/26/07, Penguino
< spheniscine@gmail.com> wrote:
Seriously Jared, could you please lose some of that attitude? You have barely learned the language, and yet you come in barging with all these opinions about it, lunging at those who are trying to help you just because they couldn't come up with a word for "geodesic dome" within 24 hours. I bet similar problems also exist for languages that don't freely use borrowings,
e.g. Chinese; only that Chinese has a lot more characters than Lojban has gismu. At least there exist systems in Lojban where borrowings can be used if you need a word now.
doi dajred
I don't think anyone has issues with you wanting to learn a bit about Lojban before you spend time learning it.
However, I do find your tone itself a bit inappropriate. As a very early beginner, you know very little about the language. I myself know not so much about the language. So it only makes sense that we ask our questions *nicely* to show respect for those who know the answer. Making bold pronouncements about how the language ought to have been is rather out of line until you understand how it *is*.
Lojban really hasn't changed much since the early days it was created anyhow, so change isn't terribly likely. If you decide you like Lojban, decide to like it as it is. If you want to see it grow, learn it. Teach it. Get pretty good, and volunteer to help with byfy work on the baseline. Once all of that gets done, and a dictionary gets published, then people might consider changes. But as far as I remember, the language has been frozen until then.
Tthat said, I hope you stick around and keep learning Lojban.