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[lojban-beginners] confusing gismus
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- Subject: [lojban-beginners] confusing gismus
- From: "Vid Sintef" <picos.picos@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:08:32 +0100
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mi'e vid
Some gismus are confusing to me. I compare them as follows:
dicra (x1 (event) interrupts/stops/halts/[disrupts] x2
(object/event/process) due to quality x3)
zunti (x1 (evt./state) interferes with/hinders/disrupts x2
(evt./state/process) due to quality x3 (ka))
le nu le mamta cu sanga cu dicra le nu le bersa cu tadni kei le ka cladu
le nu le mamta cu sanga cu zunti le nu le bersa cu tadni kei le ka cladu
spaji (x1 (event/action abstract) surprises/startles/is unexpected
[and generally sudden] to x2)
jenca (x1 (event) shocks/stuns x2)
le nu le mlatu cu morsi binxo cu spaji le nixli
le nu le mlatu cu morsi binxo cu jenca le nixli
Also there are some pairs which share a very similar meaning with
different place structures that I wonder why they haven't been
invented or simplified as a single gismu:
sumne (x1 (experiencer) smells/scents (transitive verb) x2; x2
smells/has odor/scent to observer x1)
panci (x1 is an odor/fragrance/scent/smell emitted by x2 and detected
by observer/sensor x3)
le xrula cu pluka se sumne le mamta
le xrula cu pluka se panci fi le mamta
cecla (x1 launches/fires/shoots projectile/missile x2, propelled by x3
[propellant/propulsion])
danti (x1 is a ballistic projectile [e.g. bullet/missile] for firing
by [gun/propelling launcher] x2)
le se cecla be ti cu barda
le danti be ti cu barda
Other pairs include:
mluni (x1 is a satellite/moon orbiting x2 with characteristics x3,
orbital parameters x4)
lunra (x1 is Earth's moon (default); x1 is a major natural
satellite/moon of planet x2)
molki (x1 is a mill/foundry/industrial plant/[assembly line]
performing process x2)
fanri (x1 is a factory/foundry/industrial plant/mill producing x2 from
materials x3)
zalvi (x1 [individual or mass of hard surfaces]
grinds/pulverizes/crushes x2 into powder x3)
marxa (x1 [force] mashes/crushes/squashes/smashes x2 into
pulp/mash/crumbs/deformed mass x3)
skapi (x1 is a pelt/skin/hide/leather from x2)
pilka (x1 is a crust/rind/peel/skin/hide/outer cover of x2)
mu'o