[lojban-beginners] Re: zo fu'e .e zo fu'o

["Adam D. Lopresto" <adam@pubcrawler.org>]

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, komfo,amonan wrote:

> All these usages seem to be grammatically sound.

Agreed.

> .i mi klama lo zarci .e fu'e lo panka fu'o .ui
> >  (I'm happy about going to the park.)
> 
> Not sure how this would be different from the shorter {mi klama lo zarci .e
> lo panka .ui} or {mi klama lo zarci .e lo .ui panka}

Well, it's different from {mi klama lo zarci .e lo panka .ui}, because the
{.ui} is modifying the entire sumti ({lo panka}) instead of just the selbri
there ({panka}).  Subtle difference, but real.  It's the same (effectively)
as {mi klama lo zarci .e lo .ui panka} and {mi klama lo zarci .e lo panka ku
.ui}

> .i mi klama fu'e lo zarci .e lo panka fu'o .ui
> >  (I'm happy about going to both the market & the park.)
> 
> > .i mi klama lo zarci fu'e .e fu'o .ui lo panka
> >  (I'm happy that I'm going to both, as opposed to some other relation.)
> 
> 
> Not sure how this would be different from {mi klama lo zarci .e .ui lo
> panka}

Really no difference, I think.

> > .i fu'e mi klama fu'o .ui lo zarci .e lo panka
> >  (I'm happy about the going, and about it being me that's going.)
> >
> > .i mi fu'e klama lo zarci fu'o .ui .e lo panka
> >  (I'm happy about the going, and about it being to the market.)
> >
> > And how about taking it to another level:
> > .i mi klama lo panka fu'e .ui fu'o .ui
> >  (I'm happy about going to the park, and happy about the happiness.)

That last one seems odd to me, but it may be correct.  At the very least it's
novel.
-- 
Adam Lopresto
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