[lojban-beginners] Re: And more le and lo

["Michael Turniansky" <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Tom Gysel <to_mu1975@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Since 'le' carries the requirement of having a specific thing in mind, and
> 'lo' has to refer to something which really fits the description, which
> gadri (or any other solution) would we use for ' a dog' in the sentence: ' a
> dog attacked me last night'? (bearing in mind that it was dark and so maybe
> it was a dog, or a wolf, or any other doglike creature.)

  If one were to use the CLL definition, then really, it should be
"le".  Why?  Because it is a particular thing you you have in mind,
namely, "that thing which attacked me".

  That being said, I'm surprised to find that no one has yet
short-circuited this whole discussion with reference to xorlo (
http://www.lojban.org/tiki//tiki-index.php?page=How+to+use+xorlo&bl ).
 While not yet officially official, it's been accepted unanimously by
the BPFK, and is in common use in the lojban community.  In short, the
part of xorlo that is relevant here is that there is no longer any
veridical (truthiness) component to "lo", so that, under xorlo "lo"
would be the right word to use in that sentence.

                      --gejyspa