[lojban-beginners] Re: attitudinals question

[pyrosim <pyrosim@gmail.com>]

Ah, I did have it backwards. And .ui pei is definitely the right way to ask that question. However, is "xu .uidai" still a valid utterance? And if so, what does it mean?
-Dylan

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:45 PM, komfo,amonan <komfoamonan@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 6:20 PM, pyrosim <pyrosim@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is it legitimate to use attitudinals as regular words?  ie. is the following lojban sentence acceptable?
>
> xu do .ui
>
> or does this just mean \"are you <I\'m happy>\"?
>
> - Luke Bergen

 

My naive thought would be that the .ui would bond to the whole
sentence and the xu would bond to the do, leaving \"How do you feel
about yourself? :)\" I think the sentence you are looking for is \"xu
.ui dai\". Attitudinals are usually attributed to the speaker, unless
otherwise specified (using dai). That sentence doesn\'t have a selbri,
but I believe it is a valid utterance nonetheless. I could be wrong
though.
-Dylan

You've got it backwards. UI attach to the preceding word or structure; if it appears at the beginning it applies to the whole bridi (See Reference Grammar 13:1). If, in speaking, you don't realize you wish to express a full-bridi UI until you've already started, you can close the bridi with {vau} & then add the UI to similar effect.

The question word for UI is {pei}, so {.ui pei} translates loosely to "Are you happy?" (See Reference Grammar 13:10.)

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan