[lojban-beginners] Re: fu'ivla prefix

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:08 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to prefix a fu'ivla with more than one rafsi? For example:
>
>  zgikle-r-jazu (the genre of Jazz music)
>  zgitadj-r-jazu (the techniques of Jazz music)

Both "zgiklerjazu" and "zgitadjrjazu" are valid fu'ivla forms, but
they are not type-3.

These three word forms:

CVC-r-C...V
CVCC-r-C...V
CCVC-r-C...V

happen to be valid fu'ivla no matter what you fill the gap with (as
long as you respect permissible clusters, and replace -r- with -n- or
-l- as necessary), so they are convenient patterns to form fu'ivla
without worrying that something will break down. Those three forms
only were called "type-3" fu'ivla.

Not every string of rafsi followed by -r-C...V will produce a valid
fu'ivla form. For example:

zgikle-r-kantri

is not a valid fu'ivla. "lo zgiklerkantri" will parse as a lujvo:
loz-gik-ler-kan-tri

So CCVCCV-r-C...V does not work as a general pattern for fu'ivla.

CCVCVCC-r-C...V on the other hand does always work, so if you want you
can add that form to your fu'ivla making patterns. Whether we call it
type-3 or type-4 is not really important. In fact, as long as the last
rafsi is a long (4-letter) rafsi, you could use any lujvo followed by
-r-C...V to form a valid fu'ivla), so "zgiklesrkantri" is valid.

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