[lojban-beginners] Re: CCVCCCCV

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com> wrote:
> de'i li 14 pi'e 05 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Pierre Abbat .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra.
>> I consider it to be valid if the first CC is an initial consonant pair, the
>> other CCs are valid consonant pairs, and there is no "n[t|d][c|j|s|z]" in it.
> .skamyxatra
>
> Are you sure that the "nd[jz]|nt[cs]" rule applies to {fu'ivla}?  Section 4.7
> of the CLL states, after the list of {fu'ivla} restrictions, "Note that
> consonant triples or larger clusters that are not at the beginning of a fu'ivla
> can be quite flexible, as long as all consonant pairs are permissible."  This
> seems to imply that {fu'ivla} are exempt from this restriction and may contain
> "ndj" etc.

CLL is a bit unclear about some of these things. In principle
phonotactic constraints are meant to apply to all words, including
fu'ivla and cmevla, but then CLL has at least one cmevla example with
"ndj" (djandjonz), listed as an erratum
here:
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=CLL%2C+aka+Reference+Grammar%2C+Errata

> Has the BPFK said anything on this, or is it left vague?

The BPFK has not said anything definitive on phonology/morphology yet.

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