[lojban-beginners] Re: Pronunciation: a major problem in spreading lojban

[MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com]

In a message dated 6/2/2009 14:02:53 Eastern Daylight Time, ivo.doko@gmail.com writes:


> I don't know whether [r] is voiced or unvoiced, but I probably rushed
> it a bit when I said "at the same time". The schwa comes before the
> [r] in the consonant clusters. It's easy to notice the presence of
> schwa before [r] if you compare the pronunciation of various Croatian
> words. Here's a very neat example:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Republika_Hrvatska.ogg
> Note the pronunciation of the first [r] in "Republika" and of the
> consonant cluster "hrv" in "Hrvatska" - it's very easy to hear a schwa
> in-between [h] and [r] there.


I think you are mishearing the vocalic quality of non-consonantal [r].  I have no trouble pronouncing or hearing vocalic [r], and there's no schwa in the sound.

stevo