[lojban-beginners] Re: zbasu, finti, and cupra

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Sunday 26 July 2009 19:31:59 Luke Bergen wrote:
> I was working on learning the gismu when I found {cupra} which is defined
> as:
>  cupra     pra      produce                                   x1 produces
> x2 [product] by process
> x3                                                           8f  22    (cf.
> zbasu, farvi, gundi, jukpa)
>
> Now, how does this differ from {finti} and {zbasu}?

x4 of {finti} could be the same as x3 of {zbasu}, but neither corresponds to 
anything in cupra. So one could possibly cupra something without a raw 
material. mu'a le cevni cu cupra le munje le nu finti lo gusni ku ce'o lo 
sudga tumla ku ce'o zo'e

{finti} implies that the se finti belongs to a class that didn't exist before 
(or at least that the inventor didn't know about; I invented the asteraceous 
pattern of points, even though someone else invented it before me). If you've 
been making sausage for years by the same process, do zbasu jenai finti .i ko 
na ke'urfinti le xislu

mu'omi'e .pier.