[lojban-beginners] Re: Referring to selma'o in Lojban

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

oh, I understood it to be {zo si} creates a block and then another {si} only erases the quoted word, not the {zo} itself, thus {gerku zo si si si} would equal {gerku} not {}.  Or am I misunderstanding you?

2009/8/20 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Luke Bergen<lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> ooo, that's interesting?  So in {ba'e zei selma'o} does the {zei} evaluate
> first and create the lujvo first or does {ba'e} evaluate first and say "this
> is REALLY a lujvo"?

ZEI acts first, because ZEI is a "magic word" and BAhE isn't.

Magic words are: BU, ZEI, ZO, LOhU-LEhU, ZOI, SI, SA, SU. These are
words that ignore the selma'o of words they act upon. (BAhE on the
other hand respects the selma'o of the word it emphasizes, it doesn't
ignore it like "magic words" do.)

> I don't know why I find battle between words so interesting {zo si si si}
> etc...

The rule that the camxes parser uses for those word battles is "first
come first served". The jbofi'e parser probably disagrees in some
cases.

BU, ZEI and SI, which act on the "preceding word", will act on a full
prededing block if another word has already acted, so "zo si" forms
one block (controlled by "zo" because it comes first) and the next
"si" will delete the whole block. Another "si" will delete whatever
word precedes that.

mu'o mi'e xorxes