[lojban-beginners] Re: proper pronunciation of apostrophe

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Friday 21 August 2009 04:09:50 Alexandre Dezotti wrote:
> i think the good names are 'lenis' and 'fortis' (see the most famous
> english phonetics book, i don't remeber the author now,
> unfortunately).

I think I heard of "lenis" and "fortis" a lot later than "voiced" 
and "unvoiced".

> since we are speaking about phonetics, how do you think a french
> speaker should pronounce 'xr', or 'rx' ? It seems that 'x' represents
> the unvoiced french 'r', so one should not use french 'r' in this
> case.

I use the Spanish erre in this environment (and ere or erre in most, but not 
all). For "xr" this ends up sounding like a voiceless simultaneous uvular and 
alveolar trill. For "rx" I pronounce them separately. But I learned to hear 
Spanish from my mother, so I can't answer for monolingual francophones.

firxra tumxra firxra tumxra ...
le xruki le ginxre xrixruba xu xrula cu xrani?
ri'erxi'a tirxyxi'a ...
rirxrxrazdani rirxyxrazdani
(to la xrazdan .aierne rirxe toi)

mu'omi'e pier.