[lojban-beginners] Re: Jedi Master

[tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com>]

2009/9/8 Johan Pretorius <pretoriusjf@gmail.com>
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> Hi all

coi

> Herc and I have been wondering, how would one say "Jedi Master"?
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> The dictionary claims noljedai to be defined as "x1 is a Jedi of power / level / rank x2"
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> However, nol is a rafsi for nobli, which seems to be the closest word we have for "master" in Lojban, so effectively noljedai already means "Jedi Master"?

The closest gismu for "master" in the sense of "someone who has
control over something or someone" would be "jatna", "catni", or
"jitro". Another sense of "master" such as "an expert at something"
would be "certu", which seems appropriate, in addition to the other
three gismu, with regard to the x2 of "noljedai".

According to starwars.wikia.com, Jedi Master is:
"the second highest rank a Jedi could obtain, and a traditional
requirement for becoming part of the Jedi Council, the main interface
between the Jedi and the government of the Republic. It was reserved
for those who have shown exceptional devotion and skill in the Force."

Among the said 4 gismu, the one which i can most associate with both a
social rank and a skill rank seems to be "jatna". Loosely speaking,
"noljedai jatna" might do. But you might also want to create a lujvo
such as "relmomja'a" (re-moi-jatna) for this particular definition of
"master" above.

> Or would one say "nobli noljedai"?

I would take that as "a Jedi of an elite kind", who may not
necessarily be part of a political authority i.e. the Jedi Council.


tijlan