[lojban-beginners] Re: Quizlet problems

[tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com>]

2009/10/30 Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>:
> On Friday 30 October 2009 08:08:49 tijlan wrote:
>> A cmene is something that the gadri "la" makes. "la" can be attached
>> to e.g. "jbobau" or "lojban". So both "la jbobau" and "la lojban" are
>> cmene. The difference is of course the thing to which the gadri is
>> attached, i.e. selgadri. "jbobau" has a consonant cluster and ends
>> with a vowel, that is the definition for brivla. "lojban" ends with a
>> consonant, that is the definition for cmevla. Both brivla and cmevla
>> are no cmene without "la".
>
> Also you can attach "la" to a phrase, such as "la kolmba sovda stedu" or "la
> kot.diVUAR". The latter phrase is two cmevla, but one cmene.

If we want, we can also combine brivla and cmevla (or any other valid
strings of text) into a cmene by means of "zei", where "Queen
Elizabeth II" would be "la fetnolraitru zei .elizabet. remoi". The
convention seems to be to use a relative clause (NOI) instead, but i'm
not sure whether "la .elizabet. noi remoi fetnolraitru" or "la
.elizabet. noi fetnolraitru remoi" accurately translates "Queen
Elizabeth II", which does not refer so much to Elizabeth who is a
second queen as to the second Elizabeth who is a queen.


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