[lojban-beginners] Re: "Why should I believe that?"

[Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com> wrote:
> could I rearrange the sumti and say...
> { fe la'edu'i jinvi fo ma }
> ...to mean "why believe that?" (without specifying me or you or whoever)

  You certainly can, but since the emphasis on the question is the
reason for belief, it's probably better to say "ma ve jinvi fe
la'edi'u"

> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:24, Sam Chapin <not.here.now@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> For a start there's {jinvi}, "opine": x1 holds opinion x2 (du'u) about
>> subject x3 for reason x4.
>>
>> http://www.lojban.org/cgi-bin/dict.pl?Form=dict.pl1&Query=jinvi&Strategy=*&Database=*&submit=Submit+query
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:49 PM, DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Why should I believe that?" is a fairly simple phrase, and the
>>> cornerstone of the scientific method and skeptical movement... and I'm
>>> having a bit of a time figuring out the Lojban version. The most
>>> relevant lujvo or gismu I can find dealing with belief is krici, which
>>> is belief /without/ evidence or proof, the exact opposite of the sort
>>> of belief I want to deal with. Another way to say the same idea in
>>> English is "What evidence supports that [assertion]?", but I'm having
>>> trouble figuring out the different lujvo; would
>>>
>>> ma xu'acmu fi ta
>>>
>>> translate to something like "What evidence is the basis for asserting
>>> that?"
>>>
>>> Or should I be trying to figure out "velji'i datni" or "sidydatni"
>>> mentioned in the entry for datni?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time,
>>> --
>>> DataPacRat
>>> li te'o te'a vei pai pi'i ka'o ve'o su'i pa du li no .i je'a melbi!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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