Re: [lojban-beginners] "Even" in lojban

[Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com>]

I think "even" is just {ji'a} in a specific context.

>>>> In the sense of "You smell so bad, even a starving lion wouldn't eat
>>>> you."

{lodu'u makau ni lo panci be do cu rigni cu fanta lonu lo xagjytce
cinfo ji'a cu djica co citka do}

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

On 7 December 2011 00:44, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm, I think there's an implicite "main bridi" lurking in the sentence
> "even I wouldn't do that".  The implication is "X is so
> revolting/unappealing/whatever THAT I wouldn't do it (despite the fact that
> such things normally don't bother me)".  So using a more concrete example
> for WHY "even I wouldn't do it"....
>
> I wouldn't eat that = {mi na da'i citka ta}
> Even I wouldn't eat that = {ko'a citka xlali sela'u lo nu mi noi so'a cidja
> nelci ku'o na citka}
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:47 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So how would we differentiate between "I wouldn't do that." (with no weird
>> intonational hints) and "Even I wouldn't do that."
>>
>> {mi na da'i gasnu ra} vs ... ?
>>
>> The lion thing was a bad example (to try to show in lojban; I think it was
>> fine for getting across what I meant by "even") because the interesting
>> meaning is split between "so" and "even"
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> My first thought was something like {do xlali se panci fi'o se banzu lo
>>> nu da'i lo cinfo cu na nelci lo nu citka do}.  Come to think of it I'm kind
>>> of surprised that {banzu} doesn't get a bai cmavo.
>>>
>>> Or maybe {ja'e} would be better.  {do xlali se panci ja'e lo nu da'i lo
>>> cinfo cu na nelci lo nu citka do}.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:39 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In the sense of "You smell so bad, even a starving lion wouldn't eat
>>>> you."
>>>>
>>>> vlasisku says:
>>>> do'anai in sense "implying an extreme example"
>>>>
>>>> but I don't really understand {do'a} and {do'anai}, so I figured I'd ask
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>>
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