Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Is it possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ?

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:19 AM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:

An event of an event would be {lo nu nu ...} and I don't know what it
would mean, too.

More like {lo nu lo nu ...}.

Example: {lo nu bapli lo nu bebna lo nu bredi lo nu sipna}: An/The
event of forcing someone to be stupid about being ready to sleep.
Totally comprehensible.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 20 Mar, 15:00, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I didn't actually do the experimenting to determine such a thing myself, so
> I really can't say exactly.
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> However, your example is extremely contrived. I highly doubt that anyone
> would talk about an event of an event of an event of an event in any
> real-life situation, nor can I conceive of what such a thing is. I'm not
> even sure of what an event of an event is, let alone the fourth iteration.
> (lodu'u broda losi'o brode lonu brodi , on the other hand, at least makes
> some sort of coherent sense to me, however.)
>
> Also, vlasisku.lojban.org appears to be down. Someone not about to go to
> sleep want to go on IRC and let Robin et al know? (It happens that while I
> know there are other NU, si'o du'u and nu are the only ones I remember off
> the top of my head.)
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> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:15 AM, MorphemeAddict <lytl...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:10 AM, ianek <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 20 Mar, 13:23, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Well, in that case, I recommend cu, not ku. cu is actually easily
> >> elidable,
> >> > unlike ku. I believe we determined not long ago that in the worst case,
> >> it
> >> > would take a maximum of three terminators in the absence of cu to
> >> correctly
> >> > terminate a grammatical structure, and rarely more than one.
>
> >> What a about {lo nu broda lo nu brode lo nu brodi lo nu brodo ku ku ku
> >> ku brodu}? Jbofi'e says that it needs at least these four {ku} if we
> >> want to avoid {cu}.
> >> I like avoiding {cu}, but only when it doesn't require a string of
> >> more than two terminators.
>

> > Maybe the original meant three *distinct* terminators. You've used only

> > one, albeit four times.
>
> > stevo
>
> >> mu 'o mi'e ianek
>
> >> > cu is kind of like an optional half-.i, in that whereas .i implicitly
> >> adds
> >> > whatever terminators are required to end the previous sentence and
> >> begin a
> >> > new one, cu does the same, but only up the point of the selbri (, and
> >> > please keep in mind that that is where my comparison ends- I doubt there
> >> > are any other similarities between cu and .i).
>
> >> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:38 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.n...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Well. We are preparing a textbook that will teach how to speak lojban.
> >> > > But this textbook must use as few words as possible.
> >> > > I wanna get rid of all words that can be replaced by other words.
>
> >> > > It's a textbook for newbies. So don't worry. It will be an
> >> introduction to
> >> > > Lojban.
>
> >> > > On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:49:14 AM UTC+4, stevo wrote:
>
> >> > >> Even if it is possible to eliminate {ku} in speech, why would you
> >> want to?
>
> >> > >> stevo
>
> >> > >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:35 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.n...@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
>
> >> > >>> Is it possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ? Can we
> >> > >>> rearrange words in extreme cases and use other cmavo like {kei} and
> >> {cu} ?
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> >> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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