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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Is it possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ?



I didn't actually do the experimenting to determine such a thing myself, so I really can't say exactly.

However, your example is extremely contrived. I highly doubt that anyone would talk about an event of an event of an event of an event in any real-life situation, nor can I conceive of what such a thing is. I'm not even sure of what an event of an event is, let alone the fourth iteration. (lodu'u broda losi'o brode lonu brodi , on the other hand, at least makes some sort of coherent sense to me, however.)

Also, vlasisku.lojban.org appears to be down. Someone not about to go to sleep want to go on IRC and let Robin et al know? (It happens that while I know there are other NU, si'o du'u and nu are the only ones I remember off the top of my head.)

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:15 AM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:


On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:10 AM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:


On 20 Mar, 13:23, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, in that case, I recommend cu, not ku. cu is actually easily elidable,
> unlike ku. I believe we determined not long ago that in the worst case, it
> would take a maximum of three terminators in the absence of cu to correctly
> terminate a grammatical structure, and rarely more than one.

What a about {lo nu broda lo nu brode lo nu brodi lo nu brodo ku ku ku
ku brodu}? Jbofi'e says that it needs at least these four {ku} if we
want to avoid {cu}.
I like avoiding {cu}, but only when it doesn't require a string of
more than two terminators.

Maybe the original meant three distinct terminators. You've used only one, albeit four times. 

stevo 

mu 'o mi'e ianek

> cu is kind of like an optional half-.i, in that whereas .i implicitly adds
> whatever terminators are required to end the previous sentence and begin a
> new one, cu does the same, but only up the point of the selbri (, and
> please keep in mind that that is where my comparison ends- I doubt there
> are any other similarities between cu and .i).
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> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:38 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well. We are preparing a textbook that will teach how to speak lojban.
> > But this textbook must use as few words as possible.
> > I wanna get rid of all words that can be replaced by other words.
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> > It's a textbook for newbies. So don't worry. It will be an introduction to
> > Lojban.
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> > On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:49:14 AM UTC+4, stevo wrote:
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> >> Even if it is possible to eliminate {ku} in speech, why would you want to?
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> >> stevo
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> >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:35 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.n...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >>> Is it possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ? Can we
> >>> rearrange words in extreme cases and use other cmavo like {kei} and {cu} ?
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