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Re: [lojban-beginners] Pivotal sentences in Pandunia. How to express them in Lojban ?

  Incidentally, you do know you don't have to change the order of the arguments of the main bridi from the default, right? You can use a vo'i that hasn't been defined yet -- "mi cpedu lo nu vo'i rinsa ko'a kei do" (I know that wasn't the point -- you were trying to mimic the structure of the original.  Just pointing it out in case you didn't know)  But to the main question, you could leave the x1 out of the abstraction entirely.  It doesn't necessarily default to the x1 of the outer bridi.  It's still "zo'e" and in most cases, it would be more reasonable to assume I'm asking you do take an action then asking if I can greet him.
         --gejyspa


On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM, selpa'i <m3o@plasmatix.com> wrote:
mi cpedu fi do fe lo nu vo'i rinsa [ko'a]/zo'e
The vo'i is easable inferrable from context though. (In this case, repeating do would be shorter, too. But with longer sumti, it's a different story)

Am 15.03.2012 17:10, schrieb gleki:
Here is an example if a sentence in Pandunia language.
mi peti ti tshau ta. = I ask you to say hello to him. 
parsing: [I ask you greet he/she/it]

So the second "sumti" ti in mi peti ti becomes the first "sumti" of the next construction "ti tshau ta".

I wonder whether it's possible to do so in Lojban. May {be} or {.i ri} can do the trick

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