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Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban Lujvo - My First Attempts



The schwa is added when the consonants can't be adjacent due to lojban's phonetic rules, e.g. voiced and unvoiced (like in the case of "p" and "b"); lojban also doesn't permit double consonants.

All gismu have a 4-letter rafsi corresponding to their first 4 letters.

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:28 PM, cariar.jermanis <primitive_tetrapod@yahoo.com> wrote:
Coi ro do,

I am just learning Lojban. For my first post, I am going to list some lujvo (compound words, from my understanding) that I have made to express certain English words in Lojban. Here is what I have contrived so far:

Animals:
  • pangolin - ?*mantyctimabru (? + mantyctimabru; scaly anteater) *Here I am trying to figure out what Lojbanic word would mean "scale" in the sense of an integumentary flake, as on a reptile, a fish, or on the wings of a butterfly or moth.
  • tadpole - cifpipybanfi (cif, rafsi of cifnu + pipybanfi; baby frog), on the model of "ciftoldi" (caterpillar). 
  • froglet - naru'epipybanfi (naru'e + pipybanfi; almost-frog)
  • newly-metamorphosed frog* - ci'opipybanfi (ci'o, rafsi of citno + pipybanfi; young frog) *What I like to call a "baby frog."
Ecology:
  • extinction (in the sense of hunting to or intentionally causing extinction) - mulcatra (mul, rafsi of mulno + catra; complete kill)
  • extinction (in the sense of dying out naturally or indirectly caused by human activity) - mulnunmro (mul, rafsi of mulno  + nunmro)
Note that I have consulted the jbovlaste for the words (and Wiktionary for "mantyctimabru"). I have probably made some mistakes here - please let me know what you all think!

Tu'u,
cariar.jermanis.

PS: When is the schwa (y) added between gismu and their respective rafsi, as seen in "pipybanfi" and "mantyctimabru?" For pipybanfi, the rafsi "pip" of the gismu "plipe" does not have a final vowel, so I will suppose that the schwa is added as a helping vowel. The gismu "manti," which, according to the jbovlaste, does not appear to have any rafsi, has a final vowel, and the word "anteater" in Lojban could be spelled as mantictimabru, but the final "i" of manti is made into a schwa. Why is this?

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