Re: [lojban-beginners] Place structure of lujvo

[mashers <mail@mashley.net>]

On Sunday, 14 October 2012 23:23:51 UTC+1, tsani  wrote:

On 14 October 2012 14:47, mashers <ma...@mashley.net> wrote:

 

So you could do { la jbovlaste ciksi zo tamgau fo zoi by. g1 defines t2 into form t1 .by. }

Yes. (you missed a terminator before {ciksi} however)

{ cu } ?
 

I'd probably use la'e before the zoi, too, but I'm not sure if a quote in itself constitutes an explanation.

I don't understand the definition of la'e according to the jbovlaste. Would you mind explaining it for me please?
 

 {by} is indeed the letter 'b'. zoi-quotes function by taking a user-decided delimiter after the word {zoi} itself. After the delimiter, you put any text you like, so long as it doesn't contain the delimiter, and then end the quote with the delimiter at the end. Formally, the structure is 

zoi [delim] any-text [delim].

Ahh ok, thanks for clarifying.
 

The delimiter can be any one single lojban word. That includes full gismu, lujvo, zi'evla, cmevla, and cmavo.

So you could just as accurately say { zoi klama Hello World klama }, and {klama} would be interpreted as the delimiter? Not that I'm saying I would actually do that, I'm just working out the boundary of the flexibility in choosing a delimiter.
 

 .u'i Yes, indirect questions in Lojban sure are fun :p 

I often don't even understand them in my native language ;)
 

For example {mi djuno lo du'u makau klama lo zarci} -> "I know who goes to the store." The word {ma} here isn't actually a question, but an indirect question, which must be marked with {kau}. 

Here, the translation is "decide what is the meaning of".

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

Thanks. I need to take some time to understand that.

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