On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:33 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:20 PM, mudri <jammyatjammy@gmail.com> wrote:The curly braces are quotes for Lojban text within text of other languages. I'm not quite sure why they're used, but it's a kind of standard.For upper case apostrophe, I'll give the example of the name of selma'o {KOhA} (again, braces are "quotes"). It is derrived from {ko'a}. So, as 'K' is capital 'k', 'h' is capital apostrophe.Actually, "KOhA" isn't Lojban. It's the English name for the group. 'h' was chosen because the computers that were being used at the time wouldn't allow using " ' ", and it kind of stuck. In Lojban, "KOhA" is {lo selma'o be ko'a}**Sorry, {lo cmavo be ko'a} (or {lo selma'o be fe ko'a}, but that one's ugly.)
On Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:14:36 UTC, Annie wrote:Are you saying that left-brace is sort of a letter? What do you mean by upper apostrophe, or whatever?
Sent from my iPodJust to add something, 'h' is the upper case version of the apostrophe (both called {.y'y.}). This really only ever occurs in selma'o names, though it is very common in these.To post to this group, send email to lojban-b...@googlegroups.com.It is called a "half letter" sometimes for various reasons. Matt explained how it only appears between vowels, and is unique in this respect (commas, if I remember correctly, can be used next to syllabic consonants - but that's unimportant). The apostrophe also has no effect on morphology: CVV and CV'V syllables behave identically (other than having different meanings). Finally, it is counted almost literally as half a letter in the lujvo scoring algorithm. "Something that acts as half a letter", I suppose someone thought, "should have 'half' a glyph, pe'a".--
On Sunday, 18 November 2012 22:50:10 UTC, Annie wrote:I found out that in Lojban, there's apparently no h. How is that so, when the apostrophe is practically the h?
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )