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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Question



Specifically, non-terminal symbols are written in all-capitals. This may make things clearer: http://epaperpress.com/lexandyacc/thy.html (though it may not).

On Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:55:33 UTC, Annie wrote:
Oh, so you're saying I'm over my head right? What kind of basic conventions?

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On Nov 23, 2012, at 6:37 PM, mudri <jammya...@gmail.com> wrote:

Basically, so that it can be used in YACC. To appreciate that answer fully, you'd need to know some basic conventions used in context-free grammar notation.
On Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:30:33 UTC, Annie wrote:
Since it's not really a letter, why would you want to capitalize the apostrophe?

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On Nov 23, 2012, at 6:20 PM, mudri <jammya...@gmail.com> wrote:

The curly braces are quotes for Lojban text within text of other languages. I'm not quite sure why they're used, but it's a kind of standard.

For upper case apostrophe, I'll give the example of the name of selma'o {KOhA} (again, braces are "quotes"). It is derrived from {ko'a}. So, as 'K' is capital 'k', 'h' is capital apostrophe.

On Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:14:36 UTC, Annie wrote:
Are you saying that left-brace is sort of a letter? What do you mean by upper apostrophe, or whatever? 

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On Nov 23, 2012, at 5:19 PM, mudri <jammya...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just to add something, 'h' is the upper case version of the apostrophe (both called {.y'y.}). This really only ever occurs in selma'o names, though it is very common in these.

It is called a "half letter" sometimes for various reasons. Matt explained how it only appears between vowels, and is unique in this respect (commas, if I remember correctly, can be used next to syllabic consonants - but that's unimportant). The apostrophe also has no effect on morphology: CVV and CV'V syllables behave identically (other than having different meanings). Finally, it is counted almost literally as half a letter in the lujvo scoring algorithm. "Something that acts as half a letter", I suppose someone thought, "should have 'half' a glyph, pe'a".

On Sunday, 18 November 2012 22:50:10 UTC, Annie wrote:
I found out that in Lojban, there's apparently no h. How is that so, when the apostrophe is practically the h?

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