Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Why no "about" brivla?

[la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>]

On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:38:39 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:
> la Jonathan Jones cu cusku di'e
> > Here's a hypothetical example of why I don't agree that srana "x1 is
> > pertinent/relevant to x2" could be used to mean "dedicated to":
> >
> > Let us say that I wrote a book, and upon its being published, I gave it
> > the dedication "To my wife, for putting up with me as I wrote this".
> > Then is would be true that {lo mi cukta cu ckini lo mi speni lodu'u ca
> > nu mi ciska ku sy. se fanza mi}.
>
> (You forgot a "lo" before after "ca".)
>
> > However, other than the dedication, my
> > wife has nothing to do with the book- the story contained within has
> > absolutely nothing to do with my wife in any way, except in that she may
> > find it enjoyable to read, which has nothing to do with the decision to
> > dedicate it to her, and so {lo mi cukta cu na srana lo mi speni}, it's
> > in no way pertinent to/relevant to/concerning/about my wife.
>
> Here is a non-hypothetical example from my own experience: Whenever I 
> create something, for example when I compose a piece or when I write a 
> book or any such thing, I always dedicate it to someone (and it's always 
> a different person each time). If someone was familiar with my musical 
> pieces and wanted to refer to one of them, I would consider it entirely 
> correct to use srana/pe thus:
>
> mi nelci lo do zgike se finti .i pu zi tinju'i lo do se finti pe la'o 
> me. Han Ga Eun .me
>
> Or:
>
> mi pu zi tinju'i lo srana be la'o me. Han Ga Eun .me
>
> "I like your compositions. I just listened to your Han Ga Eun piece."
>
> That's the easiest way to distinguish them, especially since I don't 
> give my pieces names. pe/ne/srana are by nature vague and rely on 
> context. And I think that's a good thing.

In such cases I would use  seki'i/do'e.

> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
>
> -- 
> pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo je nai zo lejbo
>
> doị mèlbi mlenì'u
>     .i do càtlu ki'u
> ma fe la xàmpre ŭu
>     .i do tìnsa càrmi
> gi je sìrji se tàrmi
>     .i taị bo da'i pu cìtka lo gràna ku
>
>
> .
>
>
> .

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