Re: [lojban-beginners] On "by standard x"

[Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>]

My understanding is that the "by standard" places are manri, and that we don't really know what a manri is except that they are not concrete. An ideal solution would be that manri are ka, functions that say whether the se manri apply. This is clumsy in practice, however; for example I can't come up with a practical fenki2 of this type.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM, v4hn <me@v4hn.de> wrote:

coi rodo

One of the many things about lojban which puzzle me lately
are all these "by standard x" places.

Take {fenki} for example which is defined as

x1 (action/event) is crazy/insane/mad/frantic/in a
frenzy (one sense) by standard x2

Given that definition, what does {tu'a ko'a fenki mi} mean?

Does it mean ko'a is crazy in my opinion,
or does it mean ko'a is crazy when compared to me?

Phrasing it differently, which standard
do these places represent: A standard of _judgement_
or a standard of _comparison_?


mi'e la .van. mu'o

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