Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: "Closed"

The lack of a word meaning "not open for business" has been a topic of discussion many many times in lojban's history. Really, I'm not sure why there isn't a gismu for it, since it seems to be a very basic concept. That would be very high on personal list for a gismu should baselining ever be released.

ba'anai do jbocre doi la gejyspa i seki'u bo ma'a bilga lo nu jundi lo nu jinvi fa do i ji'a la camgusmis pu cusku fi mi fe zoi gy I disagree with your words "Think 1000 times before creating new gismu" gy

i seki'ubo e'o do zbasu so'o lo glico xe fanva mupli be lo gismu poi se smuni simsa zoi gy not open for business gy i ce'o bo mi stidi tu'a lo cnino gse bacru

I remember you being a jbocre. Therefore, we should take your words into account. Besides, Robin told me once " I disagree with your words "Think 1000 times before creating new gismu".

Therefore, please create several english examples of the meaning "not open for business" or similar to it. Then I'll suggest a new gismu (it's sounding).

In any event, if you really think about it, a case could be made for "spofu (be lo nu cuntu)" for this sense of "closed", since it's not available for its normal purpose. Another possibility is "se dicra"

--gejyspa

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM, jongausib <so.co...@gmail.com> wrote:

I suggest:

{cu'urga'o}: g1 (entrance-way/store/company etc) is closed/shut/not open, preventing access to organized activity g_2=c1, by g₃.
{cu'urkalri}: k₁ (portal/passage/entrance-way) is open/ajar/not shut, permitting passage/access to _g2=k1, by g₃.

/jongausib

Den måndagen den 21:e januari 2013 kl. 19:04:39 UTC+1 skrev mudri:

My school was closed due to snow today. I attempted to express that fact in Lojban (with a few extras), but got stuck on describing that kind of "closed". There are two other words for different senses of the word ({ganlo} = closed passageway; {tolgubni} = closed group/source &c), but there's a bit more to a closed school/shop than the windows and doors being closed.

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