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Re: [lojban-beginners] FA KU



Le dimanche 7 avril 2013 20:02:14 UTC+9, la gleki a écrit :


On Sunday, April 7, 2013 2:21:48 PM UTC+4, guskant wrote:


Le dimanche 7 avril 2013 16:10:25 UTC+9, la gleki a écrit :


On Sunday, April 7, 2013 10:49:03 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:32 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, April 7, 2013 1:29:55 AM UTC+4, guskant wrote:
Le dimanche 7 avril 2013 06:12:29 UTC+9, LordDraqo a écrit :
Did you try "fi la lojban ku tavla"?


I don't need to try it, but {fi la lojban ku tavla} means "talk about Lojban". I meant {fiku} with no sumti should be x3, and a terbri next to it should be x4, but jbofi'e doesn't parse it as I expected.

I was wondering about that in past as well. I can't find that thread now but the funny thing is that 
{fizo'e la lojban tavla} does what you need.

so does

{fo la.lojban. tavla}

and

{la.lojban. ve tavla}

I guess guskant is searching for stylistic diversity which is indeed present here.
Like
in {fizo'e la lojban tavla} {la lojban} is tavla4.
But in {fizo'e tavla la lojban} {la lojban} is now tavla2 !!!

BTW, here is the old thread https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/ZBpL4xoUwgQ/discussion

ki'e gleki for the info. My problem is however a bit different from yours.

From your problem, I see jbofi'e forgets the places assigned by FA when a selbri appears, and after the selbri, the default place structure is applied. I would like to say it bothers mi'a who are not familiar with European languages

wait how is it connected with european languages??? And how are other languages compared to european ones supposed to work?


Not specific to European languages, but some languages in which the order of terms and verbs defines the meaning of a sentence. mi'a happily speak FA-tagged sumti with free order before selbri, and when the selbri lets the parser forget the FA-assignment and forces the next term to be x2 ignoring CLL9.3, mi'a might be discouraged.

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