On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 05:49:08PM -0400, Ian Johnson wrote: > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:40 PM, v4hn <me@v4hn.de> wrote: > > {pa le karci} or {pa karci} (if a number preceeds the bridi you don't necessarily > > need an article, you can think about this as {pa lo karci}) can be used > > for that, an inner quantifier is not needed here. > > {pa karce} is rather unlikely to mean what you want. In particular it does > *NOT* mean the same as {pa lo karce}. Instead it actually means exactly > what {pa lo karce} meant before xorlo was implemented, that is "there > exists exactly one car such that ..." Agreed, I never use that and got confused when reading lo with an outer quantifier, which is exactly the same thing as just sticking a number before an item (i.e. "mu lo bakni" == "mu bakni" == "five cows), works pretty much as before: "five things that really are cows". at http://www.lojban.org/tiki/How+to+use+xorlo . Someone might want to rephrase that. mi'e la .van. mu'o
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