On 22/04/2014 18:12, neit wrote:
{vo'a} always refers back to the first sumti of the main (= outmost) bridi of the sentence. Therefore, {vo'a} is perfecty fine in this sentence: {ma djica lo nu vo'a ponse lo mi gerku} In this very case, {ri} probably works too, but I'm not 100% sure, as {ri} doesn't work with some pronouns like {mi}, and the CLL doesn't provide a comprehensive list of the pronouns excluded by {ri}. Nevertheless I don't see any justifiable reason to preclude using {ri} from refering back to {ma}. :) As for the general question of how to refer back to a sumti used in an outer bridi (but not in the main/outermost one, for which you can use {vo'a} and friends), you can use {ri / ra} or the wonderful brika'i {no'a}: {mi djuno lo du'u lo do pendo cu djica lo nu [ri / lo no'a ku] ponse lo gerku} = "I know that [ your friend wants [ he has/possesses a/the dog ] ]" In the above sentence, both "ri" and "lo no'a ku" refers to "lo do pendo". • lo no'a (ku) = the x1 of the next outer bridi • lo se no'a (ku) = the x2 of the next outer bridi • lo te no'a (ku) = the x3 of the next outer bridi You can also use {lo bi'unai [selbri] (ku)} for refering back to something previously mentioned that is/does [selbri]. For example, {lo bi'unai pendo (ku)} = "the/an aformentioned friend". mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |