I agree with latro'a. {ce'u} is for marking arguments in functions constructed primarily with the {ka} abstractor. If we use the property-based lujvo for desire, {kaidji}, then we can use {ce'u} without a problem:
.i ma kaidji lo ka ce'u ponse lo mi gerku
[what?] desires the property [X owns the (restrictively-associated-with)-me dog]
Who wants to have my dog?
{ka}-abstractions with only one {ce'u} are sometimes called infinitives for that reason, namely that they translate to infinitives in English and similar natural languages.
.i mi'e la tsani mu'o--On 23 April 2014 15:12, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
I disagree with this usage in a pretty fundamental way. {ce'u} is for building functions, pe'i.mi'e la latro'a mu'o
--On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 09:12:38 neit wrote:I'd use "ce'u", since it's in a nu-clause.
> coi rodo
>
> A good example that I'm trying to wrap my brain around is the following:
> Suppose I want to say, "Who wants my dog?" bau la lojban - .i ma djica lo
> nu ____ ponse lo mi gerku
>
> I want a sumka'i in the ____ to refer to the "ma" in the main bridi. How
> can I do that? Can I use the reflexive sumka'i vo'a? (.i ma djica lo nu
> vo'a ponse lo mi gerku)? Or do those reflexive sumka'i only refer to their
> native bridi, or can they "reach-out" and refer to the main bridi of which
> they are a part?
Pierre
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ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji
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